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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-23-07 07:02 PM
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22. ok so lets go through your claims.
"They have tried to end the war, but remain unsuccessful because of the way the Constitution requires the system to work. The Constitution doesn't make it easy for the Congress to override a Veto."

all they have to do to end the war is to rescind their authorization for it. why haven't they done that? I don't think bush can veto that. they also have the power to refuse to fund the war. why haven't they done that? bush cant veto that.

"They have moved to assert their own separate but equal power rather than lay down for the President like a gay prostitute."

exactly how have they done that. by refusing to impeach him and hold him accountable for his crimes. or by refusing to do anything to stop his authoritarian laws and war plans.

"They voted for S-Chip, twice. The President vetoed it twice. This will play very well for candidates that are friendlier to my ideas, even in solid Republican districts, because S-Chip is a program that served the middle class."

Kind of weak doing that which they know they couldn't get past his veto while not doing anything to hold him to account for his crimes.

"The are advocating some form of national health care. They won't begin to be discussed realistically until 2009, but that is more than any Republican will do."

this might actually be the one halfway decent thing that they are doing if they are really serious about it.

"They have actually investigated the executive branch. Would Gonzo have been questioned by Republican Congress until he went home to spend more time with his family? The attorney firings would never have been an issue at all. Their move not to pass a supplemental funding bill as demanded by Bush was a good one."

seems to me that they are doing the bare minimum to look like they are doing something in that area since they can do so much more.


If I compare the current House and Senate to that of the Republicans between 2000 and 2006, the Democrats win hands down.

On that I would agree. although every democratic government that had a opposition party had that right up till the point that democracy ended in those countries.

"Have they done everything I want. No, but this is not a perfect world. They are more aligned with my values, hopes, and aspirations than any Republican. I will say that the Best possible Republican Candidate now would be worse than the worst possible Democratic Candidate."

Your right its not a perfect world which means that not only do we have to hold the re-pukes to account but the democrats as well for their parts of what happened.

"With a wider majority, and a Democratic President, they will move to do things that fit more in my interest. Even Hillary Clinton, bless her little corporatist heart, will pursue domestic policies that are more attuned with what I want if she ascends the Imperial thrown."

but will she do anything to slow down the march to fascism that I and many others are seeing in both major parties.

"Even Ron Paul, the only Republican against the war, would be a disaster when it comes to any progressive domestic policies. His tax policies are worse than Bush. He opposes any government program, such as Medicare, S-Chip, and Social Security, with even greater force that Bush. In the issue of the War, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. But he would be a colossal mistake as a President in every other way. His policy on the Liberty Dollar raid is proof of why the man should not be allowed in a position to determine monetary policy. Having competing currencies in the United States where any private company that has a mind could mint money is Corporatism that would have made Mussolini proud. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhWRDP8v9ss "I want competing currencies.""

hate to tell you this but a private company already mints all the money. who do you think actually owns and runs the federal reserve.


"So any Republican will stand solidly against my Values, Beliefs, and Aspirations. It is against my best interest in this election to vote for one."

on that I agree. the problem is that every election the democrats become more like the republicans as the republicans become even more like the combination of fascism and theocracy than they already are. to put it quite simply we are losing ground on progressive values, not gaining it.






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