Reply #37: You & Cali (#20) have said it all better than I can. In response to my

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posts on the several threads on this topic, my local radio talkshow wingnut, who lived and studied in Spain, replied:

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Yeah, I saw the clip and El Rey WAS pissed! Bravo for him. Juan Carlos has had tons of experience navigating his country from Franco and fascism to modernity (and high prices). He has to look at Chavez as a fool. I saw Juan Carlos in 1972 when he and his wife came to Segovia and walked the streets, saw him at about 50 yards. I think they are more popular than other monarchs in Europe.

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Here are my posts in the other threads:

As a Democratic party member in the fullest democratic sense, I am:

1) anti-royalist, anti-elitist, which classes I regard as left-over parasites.

2) anti-Fascist.

3) anti-AZNAR and anti-Shrub, having said back at the time of the FAKE alliance of AZNAR's defying 90+ percent of his country's will and his country's religious leader's will, that Shrub had just hit it off with him because Shrub had to look hard to find world leaders shorter than him.

4) and despite having enjoyed it when CHAVEZ called Shrub Satan and smelling of sulphur.



===========Despite all of these things, I am thoroughly enjoying parasite Juan Carlos telling CHAVEZ to STFU!1


Ordinarily I would Alert on all CHAVEZ threads and request they be confined to the Latin American forum where I would never see them. And fresh from another one a couple of days ago in LBN where there was the usual CHAVEZ flamefest--yet, I just LUERVE this!1

Please, this is in the same vein as my cussing at the t.v. every time Shrub's puss is on it. I don't need the lectures on how unintellectual my post is, how I'm spouting White House and/or M$M "talking points," *or* any other flaming thing that glorifies CHAVEZ.

No, it was NOT miscontrued, was not "softened by tone or gestures." It was, "!?Por que not te CALLAS?!1" meaning "Why don't you SHUT UP?!1"

Just saw the tape on Univision and that's the way it was. As for "tone and gestures" the King-a-ding-ding was PISSED and leaned out from the row of seated peeps to SMACK DOWN Chavez face to face. I don't recall whether he actually pointed at CHAVEZ, but there was NO "softening" AT ALL.

English language accounts have repeated that the words and connotations were words and a tone "used (in anger) with CHILDREN." Actually, if a "king" weren't involved, and this exchange took place in a cantina, the next step would be fisticuffs.


Vicente FOX did the same thing to CASTRO at one of the first of Shrub's meetings, when CASTRO was barred from being in the same place at the same time. FOX had a lower protocol status in talking to CASTRO than the King dude does with CHAVEZ, but FOX used the same familiar, big-footing tone.

King shutting up CHAVEZ: Yes, somebody posted in another thread that perhaps it was something polite, that "tone and gestures" might have "softened" it. HAH!1 I just saw it on Univision, and the King-a-ding-ding was totally PISSED and leaned forward out of the row of peeps to say it to CHAVEZ face to face. Some English language descriptions are saying it was the words and tone "used (in anger) WITH CHILDREN." On the tape, the dude said, "?Por que no TE CALLAS?!" ("Why don't you SHUT UP?!" with the familiar "tu" (te), not the formal, respectful "usted". )

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http://news.yahoo.com/photo/071111/photos_wl_afp/fd45723e5aa671579fa43f92b68ef894



Spain's King Juan Carlos (R) shouts at Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, "Why don't you shut up?" after Chavez interrupted the speech of Spanixh President Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero(L), on the last day of the XVII Ibero-American Summit.





A combination photo shows Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez speaking during a speech at the closing session of the XVII Ibero-American Summit (right photo) and Spain's Prime Minister Jose Luiz Rodriguez Zapatero (L)

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