Reply #337: Read your own words in your very own post ten.

[MADem]

And for someone who eschews lecturers, you sure do plenty of lecturing about my discussion style, simply because you have a mistaken impression of the role of the Speaker. That's not my fault.

"Pelosi's own words" don't matter to anyone other than her constituency. That means the people of her district, and her caucus that she leads in the House. Either group can remove her if she doesn't suit them. Not me, not you--unless you live in her district or you are a legislator who can rally others to persuade her to step down.

No matter how much you hector me, and make horseshit assertions about my 'tone' when the reality is, you don't like my FACTS, the bottom line is that this statement is UNTRUE:

Nancy, you represent US, not The House.
Got that?

As Speaker, Nancy represents the Democratic legislators in the House. The ones who ELECTED her to "Speak" for them.

As a Congresswoman, she represents her district.

And it's unfortunate that you can't process that truth.

It "seems to me" that you don't understand what a civics lesson is, if you confuse politician's statements, views, and opinions on issues with their actual roles in government. Just because Nancy says something, that doesn't mean she waves her magic wand like Cinderella, or barks an order to her legislative serfs, and makes it happen.

There's something called a majority that takes the action you desire. These matters are actually DISCUSSED amongst the members at things called Caucus Meetings. Strategies are worked out, plans are made, and the Speaker oversees their implementation.

And if there WAS a real majority for your earnest wishes, you'd see movement. But you don't. That should tell anyone save the most obtuse individual who doesn't understand the process that the will of the Congress is not yet "there." Even if you think the will of the "People" is. Funny how there's no problem getting them all on the same page when the COLA increase in their pay is to be placed on the agenda. That's because there's a MAJORITY in favor of that measure.

Go on and count up those votes....and when ya don't get the number you want, you go on and put the blame on Nancy.

If it makes you happy...and clearly, it does. Beating up on the Speaker gives some here an odd joy. I don't understand it, myself.

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You plainly don't get it. And I doubt you ever will. You're too invested in an erroneous and simplistic viewpoint. And you're playing "Shoot the Messenger" too--which isn't a very mature way to debate these things, really.