Reply #86: You're comparing apples and oranges at this point.

[Selatius]

For argument's sake, let's assume Perez was pardoned. Whether or not Perez was guilty of killing 3000 civilians is one issue. Whether he was pardoned is another issue. Just because Perez is pardoned does not necessarily mean the 1st issue did not happen, which it did. The same argument applies to Chavez. I don't deny Chavez launched a coup; that's plain for anybody looking at the fact. What I do deny is its relevance to the 2002 military coup launched against him. What I do deny is its relevance to the news media's involvement in advocating violent military overthrow of the government in 2002.

Your comparisons to Oaxaca are simply not warranted in my opinion because the news media was already controlled by Gov. Ulises Ruiz, whom CEAPPO has accused him of hiring hitmen and torturing dissidents even though APPO originally was a strike of teachers and workers calling for better conditions and treatment.