Reply #14: I don't think the Jason Leopold article that I reffed is 'tea leaves.'

[Peace Patriot]

It looks well-sourced to me. "Sources" can always burn reporters, inadvertently or maliciously. But these sources are NOT Libby's or Rove's lawyers, and the details of what is happening sound genuine. Also, I'm familiar with a lot of the court docs and many details of the case--and I think a Rove indictment is a real possibility. I think Fitz has him on perjury, and is sweating him.

Why speculate? Because we, as citizens, have other responsibilities, too, including following the Bush junta's phony narratives, for instance, on "immigration." You can look at this phony narrative naively--as mere politics--or you can look deeper and see the desperation in the dim background of a pending Rove indictment, and the pre-emptive attempt to focus the war profiteering corporate news monopolies and the yahoo Bushites on hating brown people.

I think the "dim background" is very important. I think it was important during Katrina as well--that Rove knew he was in legal trouble THEN, and quite possibly went on strike in the first days of that disaster--perhaps negotiating a future pardon--leaving Bush to be caught eating cake and playing guitar on camera, while people were dying in New Orleans.

This is not a small matter--the Fitzgerald investigation. I think this "dim background" has informed quite a lot that has happened in the foreground over the last six months. And it behooves us to try to understand what is going on in the background and to try to anticipate Bush junta moves, and be prepared for them. Also, our national security is at risk from the Plamegate perps, according to Fitzgerald in his Libby press conference. How I would put it is this: If we have traitors in the White House--who would out and endanger a CIA agent and the entire CIA WMD counter-proliferation network that she headed--what would they not do to retain power? Who are these traitors? How many of them are still in the WH and running our government, military and intelligence agencies? And who is the mastermind or masterminds? Cheney? Rumsfeld? All of them?

A Rove indictment is not primarily a political item, to me anyway. Some people treat it that way, anxious for the junta to be exposed, to help the Democrats win back Congress. But we need to be prepared for other possible consequences, including the Bushites' refusal to be "checked and balanced," threats to the prosecutor Fitzgerald and attempts to fire him, their hanging onto power with tooth and claw, and worse.

It is quite appalling that we are reduced to reading entrails (or 'tea leaves,' as you say), which is the truth, for sure, in many ways. This is the most secretive government ever, and the worst news establishment. We, the people of this country, are forced to read between the lines--a sad fact. But we MUST try to understand our situation, as best we can. And guessing about Rove--based on what we can know, and what REAL reporters are trying to find out for us--is a healthy exercise, in my opinion. It's not all of what we must do, but it's part of it. Our biggest task--our main task, in my view--is to get rid of Bushite-controlled electronic voting machines, so that we can start getting real representation in Washington DC. Fitzgerald cleaning out this nest of criminals could help us do that. You want more of the same? Let Diebold and ES&S "count" your votes! But understanding and anticipating these criminals and their power plays--however much we can--is also very important.