Reply #17: Dems must stop riding shotgun. They do it by reclaiming values -

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and acting on those values. We must, and are already, challenging the Republican fundamentalist fascists.

We must be careful not to attack Dems who have had elections stolen from them -- it is counterproductive to attack Gore, Kerry, Clelland and so forth when whatever they did or did not do -- when they got the votes they needed to win, but had the election stolen from them.

Socialism or Libertarianism - no thanks. Classic Liberalism - okay. If we try to create a whole new system we will end up with what we already have. We have to change the one we've got. We must lead them in the direction we want them to go.