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adagiopop Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-25-06 11:17 AM
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70. Thanks for all the support
If you can help at the Cuyahoga BOE, email me through DU or directly at [email protected] .
Help outside of Cleveland might be useful at some point.

Brief responses to some questions/points

1. I agree that voter suppression and purging are huge problems as well.
2. Contacting Kuchinich and Fitrakis are good ideas.
3. I do not think absentee ballots need to be accounted for in what I am doing now. The counts I have are of ballots submitted at the polling place.


The discrepancies I found could be misunderstandings on my part or poll worker mistakes.

I sent an example of discrepancies in one precinct to the BOE on 2/7, but have not heard back (despite a number of reminders via phone and email). I pasted it in below if you are interested or can answer my questions. If the BOE does not answer soon, I will ask to come in anyway.

My plan for the next visit is take digital pictures of the key numbers on each poll book. PB information might be photographed or manually counted. Absentee ballot information is not relevant to this narrow investigation, but it would not hurt to photograph that as well. This is where I could use onsite help, but turning this in to a mini assembly line. I have a digital camera, but another one would help.

The pictures would both gather permanent evidence and make the time at the BOE shorter.

Here is the example & questions I sent to the BOE. If anyone with detailed knowledge of Cuyahoga County processes can help, please let me know..

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Let me use Cleveland 10-Q as an example. I should add that I could
have easily made mistakes in recording numbers or counting and realize
that poll workers make mistakes too. I recorded the following

1-Highest Ballot Rcvd - 860
2-Soiled/Defaced - 8
3-Voted Ballots - 458
4-PB Envelopes - 48
5-Total of 3, 4 - 514
6-Voter Signatures - 346
7-Unused Ballots - 750

I also counted the signatures that came after the computer printed
names. I assume those are for provisional ballots (PB).

I assumed that PB signatures with "cannot locate" or "wrong precinct"
were rejected PB's and PB signatures with a number (voter ID?) were
accepted.

I counted (total for both books)

PB accepted: 27
PB rejected: 17

From the BOE recount canvas, there were 441 votes cast for 10Q.

Here are my questions.

1. Did I interpret the PB acceptances/rejections correctly?

2. Am I correct that Line 5 is wrong? It should have been 506 (minor
math error).

3a. Is the Line 6 a manual count of signatures in the poll book?

3b. Does it include signatures by computer printed names, accepted
PB's, and rejected PB's?

3c. Should line 6 match line 5?

3d. I fully realize how easy it is to mis-count signatures, but 346
is quite different from 514. Should a poll worker recheck the manual
count when the number is so different?

4a. Should "7-unused ballots" be equal to #1 minus #2 minus #5?

4b. If my formula in 4a is correct, there should have been 338 unused
ballots, but the certificate says 750. Should (or was) that
discrepancy
be checked?

5. Should the votes cast in canvas match #5 minus PB's rejected? If
so, there should have been 497 votes cast in 10Q, but the canvas only
has 441.

Thanks for your time,

Ron
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