Reply #143: Sounds like a good book! Here's more on Armitage.

[robertpaulsen]

From a thread last year:

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81. I believe that three

people who were high ranking officials in the administration have the ability to knee-cap the neocon junta. Tenet is one of the three. While it is not "Deep Throat" in the sense of conversing with the media, even in a limited way, there is a likelihood that two of these three have provided Fitzgerald with information that connected the three leaves of this Irishman's clover: Plame, the document forgeries, and the neocon spy scandal.

Who could do this? I suspect that there is a short list that includes former DCI George Tenet, former Secretary of State Colin Powell, and Powell's best friend, Richard L. Armitage. While it is true that Armitage has been closely associated in the pre-Bush2 days with the jackals in the neocon movement, he was pushed to the side, and saw his best friend marginalized.

I have a degree of respect for Tenet. I appreciate his abilities. And there was a time I respected Powell, though those days have long since passed. Few political figures have been as disappointing as he has ..... Blair, I suppose, as he morphed from a bull dog to a lap dog. However, from years of experience, I've found that it is very important to appreciate the skills of men like Armitage. I think that he knows this administration has betrayed the principles that our country was founded on. So, while I agree with you on Tenet, I'd remind you to consider Richard Armitage as playing an unexpected role in "current events."

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94. Hmm...I never considered Armitage. But looking at what happened to Felt...

When Powell resigned, I thought that being No. 2, Armitage would just move up a notch and take Powell's place. But seeing that he was pushed aside for a hard-core Koolaidoholic like Rice, maybe Armitage has been biding his time to pull his punches. And that's just a little bit of history repeating itself...

It's pretty surprising as a consideration. I always thought that Armitage was Bolton's angel in the State Department, the higher-up who let Bolton get away with his bullying shenanigans. I'm presuming Bolton wrote the Grossman memo Powell brought onto Air Force One and wondering, if Armitage didn't have Bolton's back, which State Department higher-up did?

Dick Cheney exposed Valerie Plame to cover up his association with A.Q. Khan's Nuclear Walmart. Read about it here: http://s93118771.onlinehome.us/DU/AMERICANJUDAS.pdf or http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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95. I think that

Bolton is Cheney's "son." He was given free reign in his work by Cheney. In that sense, there was only one person above Bolton, and that was the VP.

Armitage and Powell have been "best friends" for a long, long time. Armitage resented the way that other neocons treated Colin. He would have left earlier, but stayed until Powell left. (Way back, on about the 3rd or 4th Plame Thread, I recall saying Armitage was looking to get out, but had decided to stay to help Powell. Powell had made it clear that he was out after November, no matter how the election went.

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97. That makes sense. Dark angels don't get much higher than Cheney.

And the protection he provides within the misadministration seemed iron-clad, pre-Plame anyway.

Looking closer at Armitage, your theory that he might be a "Deep Throat" seems extremely plausible. Look at this:

Powell Aide Says Armitage, Bolton Clashed
Apparent Supporter of U.N. Nominee Said to Have Questioned His Diplomatic Tone

By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, May 10, 2005; Page A02

Former deputy secretary of state Richard L. Armitage, who last week appeared to endorse John R. Bolton's nomination as U.N. ambassador, had frequent battles with Bolton over his diplomatic tone, a top aide to former secretary of state Colin L. Powell said in an interview released yesterday by Senate investigators.

Larry Wilkerson, Powell's chief of staff, said Armitage was furious about a provocative speech Bolton gave on North Korea in July 2003, though the State Department noted that Armitage's office had approved it. Armitage also ordered the delay of congressional testimony Bolton planned on Syria's weapons programs at the time, he added.

more...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/09/AR2005050901155.html

It seems like Armitage pays public lip service to look good to the neo-cons and put Bush at ease, but behaves quite differently behind the scenes. If I were to guess who informed the grand jury about the existence of the memo on Air Force One, I used to think Tenet or Pavitt. Now I'm leaning toward Powell or Armitage.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1935550#1936205



Re-reading that link, I'm liking Wilkerson more and more!