Talk with a conservative about why the 9/11 Commission was rigged

[leveymg]

The following exchange is in the string over at DKos that follows my cross-post today of "Big Questions about the Big Lies Told to the 9/11 Commission": http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/3/11225/4574

The 9/11 commision was rigged (0 / 0)

Glad you guys are finally noticing.

I hope as a Conservative we reopen the commission and dig deep and get to the real truth. If Bush had a problem so be it, as a conservative I never said he was blameless, but we have got to get to the truth.

Democrats have to be willing to not let Clinton CYA (Sandy Burgler, Jamie Gorelic SP?)specialists on the panel and republicans have to stop this useless whining about Bush just took office.

Until we get to the bottom of what really happened America will never be safe

Engineering principle #1 - Never underestimate the power of an idiot

by Old Conservative on Tue Oct 03, 2006 at 09:57:35 AM PDT

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I'm glad you brought that up. (0 / 0)

The reason the Democratic Members of the Commission made the dirty deals they did with the other side was the simple fact that Clinton, Berger, Tenet and everyone else who knew about it broke the FISA wiretap laws.

But, I'll argue in their defense, the violations were limited to specific operations against known terrorist cells and their support network inside the United States. It was nothing like the wholesale FISA violations under Bush, but the Dems have been at a disadvantage since because there was some violation of law due mostly to concerns about operational security within CTC about the potential that FISC and the FBI had been penetrated. So, no FISA warrants were sought for the al-Qaeda cells coming from the Kuala Lumpur summit.

After January 2001, the Bush Administration closed down or scaled back some of the warrantless domestic surveillance operations, including Operation Catchers Mitt and Able Danger. I've written extensively both programs and you can easily GOOGLE, most recently about CATCHERS MITT a week ago.

I will also argue that 9/11 happened because the Bush Administration got greedy, jealous, lazy and careless during the summer of 2001. Greedy because they didn't want any of the Clinton carry overs to share the spotlight with their own programs being rolled out at the 9/4 Principals meeting scheduled to be introduced to Pakistani ISI and Saudi intel on 9/11. That's the significance of the date chosen for the attack. Lazy and careless because they cut Rich Clarke and John O'Neill out of the loop, but didn't replace them with anyone of any comparable CT program management ability.

So, there was a deal made right after 9/11. We won't criticize your negligent mishandling of programs that led to 9/11, if you don't implicate us in the domestic illegal CT programs we were running.

Someone needs to break this cycle of co-dependency. For the sake of the country, the time is now.

by leveymg on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 1:38:59 PM