Reply #279: one last try

[oge]

to make the point that bashing is just an extreme form of criticism. if you don't like people using four letter words to attack someone, hillary or whomever, just say so. i tend to agree with that, and i generally don't use them in these fora, even though i am not uncomfortable with them. the trouble with using terms like "bashing" is that they suggest something unfair or dishonest, like attacking race or gender, especially where hillary is concerned. i don't think you meant that. and i suspect we have a lot more in common on this than we do differences. hillary poses some very serious problems for the democrats nationally as well as for her constituents, of whom i am one. she is supporting, for example, a very promising young woman in NY's 20 CD against the brooks brothers thug john sweeney, but some of us are trying to persuade the new candidate to peel away from clinton style politics and try to reclaim a more honest position. hillary's influence could wreck this candidate's chances in NY by branding her with "centrist" positions that might seem to hillary ok for the country in 2008 but just look rotten to many of us in the northeast. tired of her or not, hillary is not going away and has to be dealt with. the best outcome would be if new yorkers could toss her out of her senate seat in 2006, and save the party the agony of defeat in 2008 when she runs and fails. but she has too much loot. pure and simple. i don't think anyone can raise as much money. too bad. peace.