Reply #31: Great points.

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Censure is not a bad thing, but I took issue with Feingold's framing of it: impeachment bad for the country during a time of war and censure as an alternative course? BS! Does anyone really believe that if the Democrats don't try to hold Bush accountable, pursue these investigations when they regain control of the Congress, and Bush is still doing what he's doing when 2008 roll around, the Democrat will have any credibility left?

Having said that, this is an opportunity, but it's an opportunity to put the Republicans on the spot not berate other Democrats.

Some made a point that the discussion of this is actually more damaging to the Republicans than the actual vote, which is so true and another reason that the timing and framing of this is important. There should be much more discussion about the Republicans dereliction of duty, than the across the board bashing of Democrats that's going on.

People on this board are now saying this is a political move, someone is even trying to frame grandstanding as the way to win: not good for staking out a position as the Senator who rises about politics.

Then today the LA Times compares Feingold to Dean and McCain in an article referencing him as Mr. McDean. Yes, 2008 is a long way off for such antics. We have to win in 2006.