Reply #11: Point by point

[Pithlet]

Ray is the one who came up with the idea to bribe the bus driver. I didn't see that. It's possible I missed it. It doesn't excuse it.

And this isn't any different from all the other "impedement strategies" we've seen before, in nearly every race. I haven't seen every season. I haven't seen any other racers actually impede others' progress. Lying, yes. I have nothing against that.

I'd say Charla and Myrna were MUCH worse when they warned an airline person that another racing team "are bad people", given the terrorism problems, etc. I didn't see that season, so I can't comment. If I'd seen that, I would have been upset about that, too.

In the end, it all washed, though. Everyone found out about the express bus. As for the bus door, it was only held closed a few seconds. Doesn't matter.

He's playing very, very smart. Remember, the first people to start talking about "betraying" someone was Susan and Patrick, in regards to Rob and Amber. How is that any worse? Smart does not equal ethical. Smart doesn't automatically make an act virtuous. And, Susan and Patrick have NEVER talked about or attempted to impede others' progress. This isn't about lying. This is about actively making it harder for others to complete the same tasks. That is not in the spirit of a true race.

No rules were violated, no laws were violated. Good for him. His only mistake is showing his hand too early. Just because there are no rules or laws doesn't automatically make it right.

If you could stomach Jonathon the wife beater, I can't see how Rob is worse, I really can't.What does what I think about Johnathon have to do with this? I hated John, too, remember? He was horrible to his wife. But, he didn't cheat. THAT is my issue. Horrible personalities alone don't necessarily weaken the integrity of the game. I hate Johnathan about the same level as Rob.

More clever is the fact that Rob got other teams to spend money they shouldn't have. That was also a shitty thing to do, but the players who gave him money deserved to lose their money.

You seem to think that somehow people already hated Rob, so that is why they're reacting exactly the way they are. I can't speak for others, but I can say for myself that it wouldn't have mattered who had done it. I would be equally disgusted. The fact that I already hated him certainly didn't make it hard. But, I don't ascribe different expectations to different people based on if I like them or not, and I will say that isn't a flattering accusation to make to anyone.