Reply #4: Flexibility

[Az]

Like I said there are atheists that are not opposed to the term spirituality. For some the reaction is a kneejerk reaction. It is baggage that comes from turning away from the oppression of organized religions. We get a lot of baggage from that. I know atheists that won't join freethought societies because they are too similar to religions or meet in churchs.

As to the notion of the universe. As I said I see our existance as a way for the universe to come to know itself. But awareness seems to be a result of very specific formations of matter and energy. It is dependent on the order in those formations. By everything we can reasonably deduce when that order ends so to does the awareness. Thus if this is some form of a recursive universe then during the periods between expansion/implosion cycles there is no active awareness. Furthermore it does not seem that our awareness has any impact or ability to direct the next cycle of expansion/implosion nor does it have any effect on the next cycles level of development.

Add to this the notion that such a cycle of expansion and implosion is no longer seen as the dominant theory concerning the nature of our universe. The theories currently seem to be favoring systems that give rise to a multiplicity of universes. Each existing for a virtual period of time. So in these theories once this universe enters entropy death or collapses its over for this particular iteration.

I understand the concept you are trying to express. I even share a bit of it. But the connetivity of conscious mind after death creates an impasse for me.