Reply #47: This thread is great!

[DemExpat]

I see sex as being so multi-layered - certainly to be enjoyed and NOT to be repressed - but ideally to be shared intimacy and pleasure with a trusted partner.

And of course I speak from my female experience here.............

Sometimes its the biological urge to procreate that attracts us to setting the conditions for the sexual act - I experienced sex in my late 20s and 30s as a pleasurable and demanding urge to receive, (seed?) and in these years I conceived and had my 2 children.

Sometimes sex uses fantasies with no limitations to help us bring into awareness certain mentalities and beliefs that we have concerning bodily pleaures, gender, power, self-esteem issues, need for attention, etc. Sometimes just an urge to release high levels of energy or tension.

Heavenly sex to me has to do with a real soul connection while making love - this is difficult for me to describe - and I can only personally compare it to a soul connection I had once with my sister while we were on a particular drug together in the early 1970s.
The intense and very conscious soul connections I have experienced have been the most rewarding and fulfilling experiences of my life, and have to do with rare lovemaking (2 of these resulted in conception of my kids), giving birth, nurturing my children, the drug induced (but REAL IMO) connection with my sister, my parents' deaths......

When I watch porn I feel it is all masturbatory sex having little to do with a real connection and exchange of energies. This to me is what I consider to be "lower level" sex, and I experienced this type of sex as well in my 20s......which always left me feeling less than satisfied (spiritually).

One gets to more "spiritual sex" - or "holistic sex" I believe by experiencing sex and looking at what it DOES for us and our souls, so of course I do not believe in sexual repression or repression of fantasis - it is a great school of learning! :D
Sometimes very painful, but some lessons are hard.

DemEx