Reply #43: “The” or “an”, the parameters are too limited to be any kind of “argument”.

[ironbark]

I don’t know or know of any theist who has or would argue “the existence of the Abrahamic god” on the “single claim” you present….it is a non argument/non starter.


“That you believe circular reasoning to be a legitimate means of examination speaks volumes about your integrity.”

That you believe and present what I said to be belief in “circular reasoning” speaks volumes about your capacity to read and comprehend. (Assessment of “integrity” comes into play after repetition of such misrepresentation).
I said-
The linked video debars any circular referencing of particular scripture….and yet comparative religious examination of all scriptures is one of the legitimate means by which the Abrahamic god can be examined and potentially deemed to be probable or improbable.

That is, “proof” is not available from any “single claim” or from “numerous/diverse” arguments…but “comparative religious examination of all scriptures is one of the legitimate means by which the Abrahamic god can be examined and potentially deemed to be probable or improbable.”

If examination/referencing of the scriptures of the Abrahamic religions is debarred as “circular reasoning” then you >don’t have even a description/outline< of an Abrahamic god to discuss.

“Holy scriptures reveal the existence of the deity they promote exactly as well as The Hobbit reveals the existence of Bilbo Baggins”

The “existence” of >either< cannot be determined or even a description ascertained if examination of the very referencing material/source is debarred.

Human beings get the option of examining the source material and determining the probability (or belief) of either god or Bilbo Baggins existing.
Thus far billions of human beings have come to believe in the existence of an Abrahamic god and a handful of drug induced schizophrenics have come to believe in the existence of one Bilbo Baggins.

Mug punter humanity isn’t mad, nor does it get or require >proof< before laying a probability bet based on assessment of a whole range of factors- the track, the conditions, prior form….and the form guides.

“I built the heaven with power and it is I, who am expanding it.” Qur’an,51:47

“Do the unbelievers not realize that the heavens and the earth were joined together,
then I clove them asunder and I made every living thing out of water. Will they still not believe?” Qur’an, 21:30

How "Much of it may be a metaphor" can only be assessed by examining how much referances the real world, how much of the referances regard "Turtles, all the way down", and how much is compatible with science and looking at the percentage mix.

http://www.sultan.org/articles/QScience.html