Reply #19: “not all of the religious have a problem with science....:

[DeSwiss]

No matter. Religion is still based upon fantasy -- upon illogic. You cannot compromise with ignorance. Compromising with illogic and ignorance is what's gotten us where we are today. It's what's gotten us Creation Museums and Texas School Boards who go around re-writing science and history books so that they will conform to their bullshit.

No more.

Likewise, I've also noted here of late, that whenever there is a discussion or more likely an argument displaying atheism in a poor light (as if its just the atheists who are assertive now), the use of the "personification of argument" technique is most often employed by accommodationists and the prickly asshats of religion. This way individual atheists are trotted out and made into a proper whipping-boy, rather than arguments against their thesis which they cannot withstand. I can only conclude that these religionist believe that if they can single-out the atheist leaders and spokespersons from the herd they can quieten them. And it is further hoped that the rest of us will disperse once the perceived leaders of the New Atheism are put in their places.

One almost never sees such personalization tactics being employed against religious personages and their so-called phony science called "theology." But rather we see attempts to merged religious ideals even from differing camps, into some kind of bulwark of truth and belief, rather than picking apart the individuals of these delusions of the Old Religions.

But it's precisely because religionists cannot argue against logic that they chose the personification route of attack. But this is not new. Religionists have become adroit manipulators who've practiced these tactics for centuries. In the past, such approaches might have been relatively effective. But they aren't anymore.

- It won't work.

"If religion contained any truth, it could be ridiculed, insulted, even be defiled without being diminished in any way. Its truth would shine through, undimmed, unblemished, shaming those who abused it into silence. But that's not how things are.

Religion is prickly and intolerant. It's ultra-defensive precisely because it's brittle and fragile. It's about as substantial as a meringue. It's all front and no substance. It's had thousands of years to make its case, and all it's produced is sophistry and violence. And a raft of morals that would shame a rattlesnake.

And no amount of wind-baggery and flimflam from clergy can any longer disguise the simple bald fact that there is: "nothing there." The only true thing about religion, is that it is false. Its claim to higher knowledge is laughable, it doesn't even have any lower knowledge. Not one of its ludicrous claims about reality would have a hope in hell of standing up in a court of law. And it is high time to stop treating them as if they do." ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjO4duhMRZk">Pat Condell - On ''Aggressive atheism''