Reply #50: "nobody who has AIDS can blame it on the Pope"

[beam me up scottie]

Um, yes, they can.

A baby being born with aids today can blame the pope because his mother didn't insist that his father wear a condom because she was told by the church that they don't prevent the virus from spreading.

"Your "millions of people" statement is illogical. Not only does it not follow from what I'm saying... it doesn't even fit your argument. None of the millions who have AIDS are going to be saved by wearing a condom... because they already have AIDS"

Um, millions of people are dying and many millions more WILL DIE because of the doctrine and lies. Do you understand basic math?

"Let the Pope play in his own backyard"

The world is MY backyard too, not just his. He has no right to sentence people to death because of his beliefs. That is evil.

Just out of curiosity, were the victims of molestation by priests the result of the pope playing in "his backyard" as well ?

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New York Times, May 8, 2005
The Pope and AIDS
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

SÃO PAULO, Brazil

Let's hope that Pope Benedict XVI quickly realizes that the worst sex scandal in the Catholic Church doesn't involve predatory priests. Rather, it involves the Vatican's hostility to condoms, which is creating more AIDS orphans every day.
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But at the same time, the Vatican's ban on condoms has cost many hundreds of thousands of lives from AIDS. So when historians look back at the Catholic Church in this era, they'll give it credit for having fought Communism and helped millions of the poor around the world. But they'll also count its anti-condom campaign as among its most tragic mistakes in the first two millennia of its history.

"The Catholic Church helps increase AIDS in the world," said Roseli Tardelli, a Catholic who is editor of the AIDS News Agency in Brazil. She added: "That's wrong. God doesn't like it.
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The Vatican has horribly undercut the war against AIDS in two ways. First, it has tried to prevent Catholic clinics, charities and churches from giving out condoms or encouraging their use. Second, it argues loudly that condoms don't protect against H.I.V., thus discouraging their use.

In El Salvador, the church helped push through a law requiring condom packages to carry a warning label that they do not protect against AIDS. Since fewer than 4 percent of Salvadoran couples use condoms the first time they have sex, the result will be more funerals.

http://www.religiousconsultation.org/News_Tracker/Pope_and_AIDS.htm
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This UN Secretary-General's interview was broadcast on World Service Radio and posted on BBC's website on 28 November. The full interview can be heard at: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3244564.stm.

AIDS: a 'real weapon of mass destruction'
UN Secretary-General urges greater action

Annan: Some refuse to talk about this because of cultural reasons. We had a situation where one African leader was going to give a speech — I don't want to embarrass him by naming him — and the speech was prepared for him, where he was urged to encourage young people and the population to use condoms to protect themselves. He said, “I can't utter the word condoms, I'm the father of the nation. You can't ask me to encourage the youth to be promiscuous.” But this is saving lives.

BBC: And is that what you said to him?

Annan: Yes…. I spoke to another African leader who was also entirely against the use of condoms and said, “Mr. Secretary-General, we don't want to associate you with the word condoms. You shouldn't even be using that word or speaking about it.” I said, “Mr. President, I've even written to the Pope about it to see how we can work with the Catholic Church on prevention, on education, on treatment and care.” And he looked at me and said, “Mr. Secretary-General, when it comes to condoms, the Pope and I are one.” I said, “Mr. President, but your people are dying. We're talking about saving lives. This is a very serious business — and God will understand.”

BBC: Did you change his mind?

Annan: I didn't. And this is the frustration. These are the painful experiences you sometimes have to go through. And then if I walk away to see one of the dying patients and they were to look up and say, “Help me — get our president and the leaders to help us.” You can't tell them the attitude of their president.

http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/afrec/vol17no4/174bbc.htm
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Sorry but your pope is a murderer.

There are laws against killing people.

Personally, I would like to see him stand trial in the Hague as well as king george and his cronies.