Reply #18: Hand counting at the precinct level on election night....

[Bill Bored]

...is why lever machines were invented.

Counting paper ballots after they leave the building has always raised questions.

Using computers to count at ANY time, raises even MORE questions.

So the lever machines were and still are the answer to both paper-ballot and computer-based fraud.

It's really a dumb idea to get rid of them and the truth is, most of those who advocate doing so are clueless as to how to verify election outcomes without them.

The plan in NY is to hand count just 3%, skipping entire contests in some cases, leaving the rest to the courts, with no evidence for them to be able to judge who won and who lost.

As for the voters, fawgetaboutit!