Reply #30: Well, that's not going to happen on the DU - the DU has served

[mikelewis]

as a means to energize and organize the progressive base. For months we have worked day in and day out researching, reading and writing about fraud. To get us to sing a different tune would rob us of the force that drives us. Most of us here are fed up and disgusted by a system that has turned its back on the American Dream. I can't and won't speak for all but for me, the DU is a place where I can find focus and common purpose.

We also love to fight the Freepers. As distracting and annoying as they can be, they add a flair of controversy that makes the long hours of pouring over canvass reports and sifting through articles a little less boring. If that's possible.

I agree that we should approach the issue in a non-partisan manner but the Freepers absolutely refuse to believe that any fraud took place other than on our side. That's not to say that they are dishonest, most are not. They simply do not believe that they can be wrong. They believe in Bush and they believe they have finally come into thier own. To reach out to them right now is somewhat pointless. As time goes on, however, some of them are beginning to realize that they are being sold a bunch of crap and that veil is lifting, slowly but surely.

Just so you know, I used to be a quasi-freeper. I listened to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh religiously. I had no party affiliation but they were the only ones talking about politics on the radio. I read and watched the MSM and had no idea I was being lied to.

When I took the "Red pill", I became enraged. I couldn't believe the level of deceit and treason, it nearly knocked my socks off. If it wasn't for the DU, I would be living in Austrailia right now. I had a job and everything lined up. I was waiting to see if Kerry would win and then I was going to move my whole family out of this country if he didn't. I was filling out immigration paperwork when I found out that the election was stolen. I called Kucinich and started helping out in the effort and they led me here.

I don't want cooperation with Republicans, I don't care about republicans. I don't even care about politics all that much, but now, out of necessity, I must.

I believe in the goodness of the American people but thier will has been supplanted by a malignant cancer. They refuse to see it. Try talking to them if you like. Log onto the Freerepublic and see for yourself. Try posting a fact about fraud that involves a Republican and they'll go completely ape-shit. The conservatives have bought into a line of bull-shit that makes Amway look like a cheesy chain-letter scheme. Ironically, the Usurpers are using the same tactics on thier people that Amway uses on its disciples. It's all mind-control bull-shit. They aren't our allies. They're lost in some strange Jim Jones cult that is sweeping the nation and the Kool-aid is the idea of Freedom. It's amazing in some respects, terrifying in most.

I would love an alliance with the Freepers but our positions are so diamtrically opposed that there is no common ground. They are taught that we are ignorant and misguided by a liberal media that seeks to destroy the Republican power base. They see any opposing view as a threat. I would love to have a dialogue with one who hasn't lost themselves to some sort of rapturous devotion to the party but those are few and far between. It's just going to take time but thier transformation will not come as a result of comprimise, They see no need to comprimise. They believe they have won and we have lost but what they refuse to see is that we have all lost, at least for now.

I would love it if you could reach out and bridge that gap but I fear that you'll hit the same wall so many of us have already run into. But don't stress, when you do. They will come around all on their own and when they do, they'll need a place that they can throw all their rage and energy into a fight. It's the path that led me here and I must believe it'll be the path that leads them here as well.