Reply #17: So your position is that of the DNC. Well we're 1/2 way there...

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The DNC report was a work by new and old staff. It was remarkable that it was issued at all. Finally, five years after Florida 2000 they addressed the racial bias of election fraud and the on-the-ground problems. That report would not have looked the way it did without tremendous pressure from DU and other groups with, frankly, superior knowledge of the problems. The report is not perfect and more needs to be done. Recognition of that is ripe here and among other activist groups and the pressure will continue. Ultimately, the disagreements are not about you or TIA or even rhetorical and interpersonal styles, they are about pursuing the truth through logical analysis. I see no logic in what you present, nor do I see any position, other than an endorsement of a report that has real utility as a start of a process not a final product. The weight of the evidence and the balance of the debate are exemplified in the lead post of this thread and the work that preceded it. Address that. If disparaging remarks about the product are your main point, you've made those, time to move on. If you want to hang around and disparage, fine also but don't expect to do it with impunity. USCountsVotes.Org is in tatters, it would appear, or at least split in a way that distracts from it's credibility. I suppose it is time to move on.

On edit: Recall that the Conyers Report on Ohio was issued shortly after the election, the executive summary. This was the point at which DNC should have spoken both in terms of credibility on 2004 and in anticipation of 2006.