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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-19-05 10:22 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. think you got the wrong counties, but I'm aware of them and took them
into account to some extent, though one can't be very precise I think. The big overvotes(butterfly ballot) were in Duval, Palm Beach, Hillsboro, and Gadsden(small Dem county) that I'm aware of. I wasn't aware of such a problem in Escambia. And if you read my analysis, you will see I also pointed out that there was a major purge of supposed felons(who weren't) and supposed inactive voters that weren't and failure to complete registrations from DMV, etc. for minorities/Dems that suppressed hundreds of thousands of votes, especially in some of these counties- both in 2000 and 2004.

But I've still seen no evidence that the problem was optical scan county compilers, other than the known fraud in Volusia and Brevard in 2000 that likely cost Gore the election(along with other big bogus swings only one of which being counted correctly would have made a difference) and the Black Box Voting focus on Volusia again in 2004( with hanky panky regarding memory chips being the problem in 2000 and the alleged problem in 2004). Those are very easy to manipulate- just no firm evidence so far it happened other than the big brouhau in Volusia that is ongoing.


There were an awful lot of "machine problems" in counties like Duval and Orange and Brevard and etc. where the machines wouldn't read the votes and large numbers of votes were put in containers(some not very secure)to be counted "later". This could be easy to manipulate. Likewise the county tabulators are also easy to manipulate. I just haven't seen evidence yet it happened or is being looked at except in Volusia.

The biggest problems the EIRS data pointed out were hundreds of thousands who tried to register who weren't allowed to vote, hundreds of thousands who tried to get absentees but couldn't, major polling place changes in minority precincts and dirty tricks and misinformtion by officials regarding proper polling place preventing minorities from having their vote counted, large inapropriate voter roll purges, irregularities by poll workers regarding ID requirements, etc.
and touch screen switching. But I don't think TIAs method deals with most of these. I'm aware there could also have been big compiler irregularities also(other than switching) that is what I think TIA is mainly implying. but I think there was enough swing in the categories I summarized above to account for the swing, without even getting into whether there was also compiler fraud or glitches. (some glitches were caught, likely not all)












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