Reply #55: I think we sort of constantly miss a major point about the Bush base.

[EFerrari]

It is not Republican. It is multinational and corporate.

Maybe you youngins don't remember but I remember true conservatives. I disagreed with them but I never worried that they'd okay torturing people or arrest people without cause and hold them for years without charges.

And by extension, the Republican party can't get rid of the vote fraud, any more than the Dems can. Because they don't own it. The multinational Mafia does.

We have to be careful about this or we waste time and alienate people who we disagree with but who aren't the real enemy of democracy.

(Okay, putting my helmet on. lol Beth)