Reply #70: no.

[Machiavelli05]

The votes are needed in Congress. There arent close to enough votes even if ALL the Dems voted for it plus some liberal Republicans. I assure you the Blue Dog caucus in the house would split - requiring even more Republicans.

ANYTHING in Congress will go nowhere - b/c there arent votes. The electoral votes wont be rejected. EVEN if Conyers beat Congress over the head with stronger proof than we know right now is available, GOP party loyalty in the House and Senate is so solid that we wouldnt get the votes.


Pursue a constant effort before nov 2005. Lets solve to problem instead of dwelling on the past problems! Lets change the future instead of reliving the past.



edit: its not whether this argument is valid - b/c it sort of is. What the book says is valid. Your application to this instance is not. In order to say that Ohio violated its own laws - there needs to be precedent to establish that, i.e. a court finding that says those laws were violated. Congress, instead, will only vote saying whether they interpret it as being a violation of Ohio's own law. If they vote along party lines, which they undoubtedly would in a best case realistic scenario, it would get shot down.

Something has to happen to convince GOP that it was fuckedup. Otherwise its DOA.