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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 05:42 AM
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16. Yes, the theory is they did pad in non-battleground states.
Most people working on this for a while have suspicions about Texas. Madsen lists California as well. My work with EIRS independently suggests Texas (and NM, FL, OH.) Though why they would make these defects user-visible... seems like they didn't hire the best coders.

Anyway it isn't a new theory.

The only way to find evidence that this is the case, other than recounts where it is possible and where they haven't managed to back up the initial tally fraud with forged ballots (it's been a month, folks) is obtaining actual voter rolls and looking for people voting who shouldn't be. And that's assuming they didn't just flip votes away from Kerry. In that case, it could be untraceable by now, or may never have been traceable in the first place in the case of e-voting.

Of course, there is the chance they just aren't expecting us to do a recount someplace and we could still catch it.

All we have left is the statistics to speculate over, and whatever Bev and Madsen and Arnebeck and Conyers have dug up, and whatever panicked butt-covering bureaucrats will fess up to to save their own skins.

Then there are the "better statistics" than what we can come up with. Mitofski and Zogby and Harris and NBC have data from their exit polls/tracking polls with early voters that may be quite convincing, especially if applied to particular precincts.

We should still keep cranking out the stats, even though our information isn't as good as some of the insiders. There is *plenty* of stuff to be analysing. Practically no work has been done really on the EIRS records and the othe sources like it. Everyone seems to be all bent on working with raw exit poll numbers which are just as dubious as the "cooked" ones, given we don't know what weights were applied to them before publication, the methodology, or anything.

We also need to figure out how to put pressure on the other side, as they start to make it seem like Dems did a lot of fraud by hunting down the handful of people that abused the system and voted twice. We need to be ready to point out their hypocrasy, ad hominem if possible.

Especially if what they are planning to do is point at the fake voters that their hackers allegedly added to the rolls via the caging list system, claiming that they were used to add democratic votes.
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