Reply #5: They are not MSM though.

[FatDave]

They're cable news, and they do provide the news with a leftward slant. Technically, they're news commentary programs. Nothing wrong with that, it's needed to respond to Fox, but it is what it is.

The problem is with the supposedly objective evening news on the big 3 networks. This is where most Americans still get their news. And if they can't do a quick fact-check to disprove the ridiculous lies? I mean, that a health insurance reform bill is Obama's final solution and the government will choose who lives and dies? That's fucking ridiculous. And nobody on the major networks will stop and say it's ridiculous? This is a problem.