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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-17-09 08:56 AM
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100. Oy vay. This again? Um, Harry Reid rushed the vote while Obama was in NH.
Edited on Tue Mar-17-09 09:12 AM by ClarkUSA
Meanwhile, Hillary stood w/ Joe Lieberman.

Your regurgitating that primary war red herring about "present" votes is both Hillaryous and unfortunate... it's
not too late to learn the facts. Cherry-picking a handful of votes from a long legislative career and then
distorting them is exactly the pattern of Rovian lies that loses elections.
We saw that happen in 2008.
Some people never learn from their candidate's mistakes, apparently.

FWIW: Fact Check: Obama's 'present' votes

SPRINGFIELD, Ill.—Barack Obama's rivals in the Democratic presidential race contend he sometimes voted "present"
on tough issues rather than take a firm stand...

THE FACTS: Obama acknowledges that over nearly eight years in the Illinois Senate, he voted "present" 129 times.
That was out of roughly 4,000 votes he cast, so those "presents" amounted to about one of every 31 votes in his
legislative career.

Illinois legislators often vote "present" and for a wide variety of reasons. Sometimes blocs of lawmakers do it as a
protest in some dispute over rules and procedures... In other cases, lawmakers do it to signal objections to the details
of a measure that they support in principle. They also use "present" votes as strategic moves to defeat legislation...
the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council says Obama's "present" votes were actually part of a careful strategy
to prevent those restrictions from passing.

President Pam Sutherland said... she approached Obama and convinced him to vote "present" so that the
wavering senators would do the same... Neither the Illinois Coalition Against Sexual Assault nor the House
sponsor of the legislation faults Obama for his vote. Former state representative Lauren Beth Gash, who
supports Obama for president, said she ultimately disagreed with his constitutional concerns but that
Obama raised legitimate questions and was acting on principle.


The primaries are over. Move on. Obama Is 44. Enjoy the next eight years instead of being so bitter.

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