Reply #25: :-) vitirol aside - thanks for the nice comment - we agree on much here - there is a conspiracy and

[papau]

their is secrecy and secret meetings - I've actually - for 18 months in NYC - had dealings with folks that write checks with 9 and 10 zeros - and from that I agree most of what goes on in this world is not in the media.

But it is not run by any combination of families that can be labled anything - other than filthy rich and greedy. I met many very rich types who work on giving it away and are wonderful folks - but there is a crowd for whom more is never enough and for whom paying any tax is "stealing from them".

And they do discuss how to kept the only slightly rich and below amused amd unaware of how they are being ripped off (my role was to present concepts that eliminated taxes in one or more countries as accounting entries and trusts and partnerships and special purpose corporations were created around the world with the billion dollar investments always coming back a few seconds after leaving, having accomplished their tax elimination job).

Because we do not have MANDATORY SOLELY federal election financing, it is easy to influence whoever wins an election - job movement threats are very powerful..

Sorry - you go fight the conspiracy you deduce - I'll go fight the conspiracy I have seen.

And we can end of the fact that we both apparently like Naomi's book! :-)