Reply #134: Not for long...

[kenfrequed]

Odd that you would headline your argument with a declaration that there is a middle class. Considering what NAFTA and the WTO are doing to the middle class I think that might be a weak point to start the argument. To fully blame Bush for the dissolution of the middle class is short sighted.

Sure you can definitely blame him for beating up the working poor and for kicking old people and children in the teeth with his cuts to social welfare, mystification of medicare, and the favoring of crooked lenders for homes and education. But for the creation of more poor people you need only look at the free trade policies that have liquidated American jobs. Of course Bush and the replutocrats are pro big business and pro free trade, but it was Clinton that wanted to get in on NAFTA, the WTO, and fast track trade policy. The environment, working wage, and political sovereignty be damned.

As far as comparing a simple policy DADT to Healthcare it is like comparing apples to photographs of pineapples. There is not economic stake from which to lobby and dissolve attempts at universal health coverage. A simple statement of 'No-More' would have resolved the gays in the military issue completely. Clinton chose to compromise.

I find it amazing that you act like DADT is a success becuase conservatives are ok with it now. More gays have been thrown out per year since DADT than each year before it. Please do not pretend this is progress.

Can you imagine more insurence companies being involved in 'healthcare reform'? Dear gods they are the greediest of the greedy and the best thing that could happen to most of them is to be put out of business. What about the undercovered? Surely you have seen Sicko? Or do you buy into the HMO/Insurence company hit job pieces done on it?