Reply #3: The Conservadems in action. 60 votes mean nothing.

[madfloridian]

If we keep voting for them, nothing will ever change.

The arrogance of the Conservadems

They are there to empower the Republicans.

Mr. Bayh, Mr. Carper and Ms. Lambert are all honorary leaders of Third Way, a progressive Democratic policy group. Mr. Bayh and Mr. Carper have also lead the centrist Democratic Leadership Council.

The new coalition includes six Democratic freshmen, Mark Begich of Alaska, Michael Bennet of Colorado, Kay Hagan of North Carolina, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Mark Udall of Colorado, and Mark Warner of Virginia. Other members of the group are Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Bill Nelson of Florida. Joseph I. Lieberman, the Connecticut independent, is also part of the group.

..."But Mr. Bayh in the MSNBC interview, warned that Mr. Reid would need the new group’s help to get major legislation through the Senate. “As you know, on most things, you’ve got to get the 60 votes in the Senate,” he said. “And that’s going to be hard. And it’s going to take the centrists to get us there. And so we want to help make the changes we need. And that’s — that’s what our group is all about.

They will keep right on selling out the average person in our party.