Reply #38: Oh I know it... I'm from there.

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And I'm from the southwestern quadrant as well (Dayton), so I am really familiar with the conservative, idiotic mindset there. IT's just ... man, in all my life I haven't seen them be nearly as screwed as they are now. The exodus rate for that city alone is enormous. They have lost about 10,000 jobs alone this year. It's tragic. I like to think that they will put their ways of life, their paychecks, their ability to feed their damn families above whether or not so and so has an abortion or so and so gay couple gets married or burns an American flag. The viability of the Republican social agenda DEPENDS on whether or not people are financially prosperous enough to give a shit. If they are not, they're going to hopefully vote to save themselves that way and worry about abortion later.

Bill Clinton took the state both times, if I remember correctly. Let's hope they see the error of their ways this year. If not, that state is going to become the official armpit of the U.S. in no time.