Reply #16: I ask people like this why they are so against a safety net for

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the poor.

And then also, the definition of "socialist" or "Marxist" (terms they through around) do not fit that. Memorize those definitions then ask them how does Obama really advocate anything like the state owning the means of production?

If they change their minds, they won't do it right off, but just a little juggling of their minds could be a nudge, or a contributor, to their waking up out of their ignorance. Get them to the point where they are out of their depth. They don't know what a Socialist is - they just repeat that talking point.