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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 06:36 PM
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131. The Catholics are voting for Hillary. Virgin of Guadalupe and Holy Mother
are the goddesses of the New World. I write about this is the journal that I wrote just before this one "Democratic Idols: The Mother and Child Reunion", California, Texas, New England, Ohio Pennsylvania---all big Catholic states and regions. Catholics speak to Mary to intercede for them with God. Protestants consider Mary the Great Whore. Latinos can dig Hillary because for them Guadalupe was an Aztec Goddess who managed to infiltrate the conquerors' Church. Mexicans marched under her banner when they kicked the Spanish out. She is more important than Jesus or God to many of them.

Plus, there are some cultures, Irish, Native American esp. that have strong matriarchy traditions. Hillary does extremely well in those groups. And those groups take great offense at sexist attacks. They believe that Hillary, the Mother, will understand and help them in a way that a distant male figure can not, just as Mother Mary intercedes for them in a way that the distant all powerful God does not.

There are a lot of Catholics in the Democratic Party and they are voting for Hillary by a pretty good margin.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/09/nyregion/09about.html?_r=2&ref=politics&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/27/capturing-the-catholic-vote/

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080327/NEWS19/803270333/1321/NEWS

Note that the MSM does not "get" Catholics. They think that Catholics only vote on abortion and that they do what the Pope tells them. This is bullshit. Or maybe those are Republican Catholics. I do not know any of those. I only know Democratic Catholics. Catholics openly mock the Pope--among each other. I am not Catholic myself but my extended family is and I went to a Catholic school during the 8th grade. I learned that these 13 year olds only gave lip service to what the priest told them and they had their own views on abortion, sex, birth control---and this was in 1972 in Atlanta. What is much more important for Catholics, especially Democratic Catholics and what separates them from Protestants is the lack of the Calvinist belief that worldly success is proof of God's favor. To a Catholic, if you make money, you are obligated to share it. The only excuse for wealth is to do good works with it. Catholics feel called upon to help those in need. They are going to look for the candidate whom they believe who will sacrifice him or herself to help others. They do not care if their candidate looks like a winner ( a Puritan ethic that Obama excels at) since they know that saints and martyrs often appear humble, bedraggled, wretched. The more Hillary is attacked by the news media, the more they will support her. Especially the Irish Catholics.

So, when the MSM attacks Hillary, it cements her base. People like Chris Matthews and Pat Buchanan know this. They are Irish Catholics. They know exactly what effect they are having on the Democratic primary when they mock Hillary. Keith Olbermann does not. I suspect that he is getting bum advice from one of the two listed above. KO is making a martyr of Hillary so that her core
supporters---women and Catholics will be strengthened in their resolve.

And if you combine women and Catholics you have damn big Democratic pool to draw votes from.

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