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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 11:21 AM
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157. loyalty makes the world go round
probably the most important virtue of politics and the number one consideration in making life-affirming decisions eh. helps ignore that damn conscience too.... :eyes:

but seriously, there's something discomforting about how you're switching this effortlessly to an unrelated issue (ever heard of non sequiturs? this is a textbook example). Never mind that the only relationship between your point and the topic of this thread is "blackness" (how's that for grasping at straws?) -- why bring up this rant here and under these circumstances? Do you have anything to say about Ferraro's comments? If Lewis is so important to you, why not address him elsewhere and show that you care about more than just the quality of loyalty in your party, that there are some lines that should not be crossed. I felt the same way about Samantha Power, whom I loved but agreed should go because what she said was not only hurtful but foolish politically and in no way good for a campaign.

SAME goes for Ferraro. Not enough people here are saying it, but as she is a PAID member of HRC's campaign, her comments represent that campaign. PERIOD. What she said was inexcusable, and Obama should demand her resignation. We'll see whether the MSM makes as big a deal about this as they did Power. I doubt it, even if Axelrod & Pouffle do make the issue out of it that they should.

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& OMC: I usually disagree with you politically, but think you nearly consistently show principle in what you say. I know you were decrying Power, so am just befuddled to death that you don't think the same principle applies to Ferraro. I in no way wish to imply that her comments reflect HRC's opinions or position, so don't take my point there. Instead, it's simple. Spokesperson or not, Ferraro is a REPRESENTATIVE of Hillary's campaign and thus, when talking about campaign issues (which Barack's candidacy and political status are), she represents that campaign, just as Power did when saying "monster" whether off the record or not. If you think her comments are wrong and wrongly made (which it seems you do), then she is being wrong as the member of a campaign she has made herself out so proud to be and has dillegently worked to represent. How that is not a fact to you is beyond my comprehension. that said, this is my opinion, take it or leave it.

FERRARO NEEDS TO RESIGN: AND IF OBAMA DOESN'T DEMAND IT HE ACCEPTS A DOUBLE STANDARD IN THIS RACE THAT NOT ONLY DISSAPPOINTS ME, BUT SENDS OUT A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT HER TYPE OF COMMENTS ARE ACCEPTABLE.
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