Reply #69: You've discovered a core problem with the current Dem party.

[Scott Lee]

No conviction. No bravery.

You bring up that suddenly, it's as if the war and patriot act votes Kerry made never happened - in the din of Kerry supporter euphoria. That's precisely why the Dems continue to lose. They are, as a party, (somewhat accurately) perceived as being without conviction. Lord Kerry is a shining example as we speak. Winning is everything, forget the fact that there is a dimes worth of difference between his positions on major issues and Bush-holes.

Do you think many in the rank and file will "get it" anytime soon?