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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:03 PM
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Obama (not Hillary) fares MUCH better against the Ghoul
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Contrary to what some Hillbots apparently believe, to win the election, a candidate must win a majority of electoral votes. Winning the popular vote doesn't count (you may recall that Gore indisputably won the popular vote in 2000 but had the electoral college vote swindled away).

Yet even national polls (which do not reflect how the election works) show that Hillary does the same as Obama and Edwards against Giulaini:

The most recent with data for all three Democrats (Newsweek's poll of 10/31 - 11/01) shows Hillary leading Giulaini by 45% to 49%, Edwards leading him by 45% to 48%, and Obama leading him by 45% to 48%.

The tightness of this national contest (which, again, is NOT how the election works) echoes the earlier Rasmussen polling which shows Giuliani leading Hillary by 2% (46% to 44%), leading Obama by 2% (45% to 43%), and leading Edwards by only 1% (45% to 44%).


Anyone who thinks this shows a national advantage for Hillary against Giuliani as compared to Edwards or Obama just don't understand polling or their margins of error.

In head-to-head polls which reflect how elections really work (i.e., state-by-state), Hillary does WORST against Giuliani as compared with Edwards and Obama because Hillary wins the blue states by a larger percentage than Edwards or Obama, but she loses more red and purple states.

In the Quinnipiac poll released on October 31 breaks down how the candidates do in red states, blue states, and purple states. Hillary beats Giuliani handily in blue states, but she gets creamed in red states, and -- MOST WORRYINGLY -- she gets creamed in purple states too:

Red - Blue - Purple

40% - 50% - 41% -- Clinton
49% - 38% - 47% -- Giuliani


Obama also beats Giuliani handily in blue states, but he does better (yet still loses by a 1/3 smaller margin than Hillary) in red states, and does much better (barely winning) in purple states:

Red - Blue - Purple

39% - 48% - 43% -- Obama
45% - 38% - 42% -- Giuliani


If you plan to vote based on who is a better match up against Giuliani, it is Obama, not Hillary, who you should support.
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