Reply #93: That's not true - listen to part of Kerry's speech

[karynnj]

at this link - starting 13 minutes in. Kerry had always said that we should not draw the lines that the Iraqis had to do it. This Biden proposal gives the reponsibility of drawing lines and defining how the states and teh weak federal government interact. Obama should say if would have voted yes or no or intentially abstained.

The SECOND video has Kerry's comment - and of course they are good :), the answer to your points is about 13 minutes in. (To me this sounds like a cross between Biden's idea and Kerry's repeated since 2004 summit. (Kerry also puts a plug in for the deadline - explaining that otherwise no one is motivated to do anything.

http://kerryvision.net/