Reply #72: This refutes NOTHING I said

[karynnj]

All you have is one EX- Kerry person. Kerry re-vamped him campaign earlier in the year - and fired some people. I do not know if Mr Gibbs was one of them. Is Edwards responsible for everything that David Axelrod or Shrum did - They after all once were Edwards' campaign manager once.

As to the donors - I GAVE you more information than you had. I told you Toricelli gave to both. None of those unions were for Kerry. The biggest listed donor Daniel Abraham did not give to Kerry - http://newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=FL&last=Abraham&first=Daniel I also told you that the Toricelli info came from an analyses (done by a Deaniac) that compared the lists - for the purpose of showing that they had the same donors. In Kerry's case, they didn't find that much overlap. There were many Gephardt people. (hint: labor groups are not friends of the DLC) Every one of the Labor Unions listed endorsed Gephardt.
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2004/interestg/laborendorse04.html
Looking through labor union stuff to find this, it is possible they were anti Dean because he had been pro- NAFTA (though by 2003/2004 was saying it needed to be changed - Kerry was likely NOT there intended benificiary. He had voted for it and advocated for the AFL/CIO endorsed worker and environmental protections. (the AFL/CIO in 2005 endorsed his amendment doing this on CAFTA - that lost 10-10 in committee). Dean did get a lot of the new service unions that were not affected by NAFTA.


It was not legal to co-ordinate and there is not even good circumstancial proof that Kerry's campaign - much less Kerry did anything wrong.