Reply #60: wow, nothing like having portable goalposts, I guess.

[ulysses]

First you said, "the actions of the "progressive movement" of the 60s gave the Democrats the public perception of being weak on defense, shunning religion, having lose morals, etc."

Now, the remedy is "popular DLC policies of welfare reform, tough on crime initiatives, fiscal conservativism, etc." - none of which has to do with defense, religion or morals.

Now, your answer in a nutshell?

I don't speak for all progressives, of course, but from where I sit, if doing the right thing gives the party a negative image, then the best way to remedy that is to change what it is people expect from government, not to do the wrong thing.

Now, let's talk about the special interest agendas the DLC is supposed to reject...