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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-15-07 07:43 AM
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5. Great OP. Prepare for flames from the "unless you are for us you are against America" crowd....
Unless you are for impeachment you are against the Constitution. SARC

Sorta the same logic as "unless you support Iraq you are against America (or the troops)". But if it is our side that uses this logic it is ok?

The OP makes a point. When Clinton was impeached public approval of Clinton went up 10 points. ALSO, public approval of Republicans went DOWN 10 points. And that was in spite of a conservative-leaning media.

Today we have a media that would work FOR the incumbent, and the potential for a backlash is even higher.

So those of us who know how bad the Bush Administration has been are faced with a dilemma. Do we try to remove Bush AND Cheney from office now, knowing they are lame ducks anyway, knowing conviction in the Senate is unlikely, knowing it would take almost all of the govenment's attention away from other issues such as Iraq, knowing it would harden party lines on other issues, and knowing that there would be a risk that a backlash could occur that could cost us victory for pres and congress in 08?

Or do we concentrate on Iraq, investigating and embarrassing the Reps at every opportunity, and and position ourselves for a landslide victory in 08?

Personally, I think it is a moral imperative to win in 08. Four or eight more years of Republican rule to me could do a lot more damage to the Constitution and to our country than another year and a half of Bush. Just look at the Supreme Court. More Bush appointees, and it could affect things for a generation.

Sorry to break bad news, but Dems are not shoo-ins in 08. Yes we have a wonderful opportunity. But Bush is NOT running. We cannot run just against Bush. Now almost everyone, even Republicans, know Bush is a twit. But many/most of the same voters who voted for him, will be likely to vote for another Republican this time around.

If impeachment leads to a backlash, a public opinion swing similar to what happened when Clinton was impeached, we are probably going to get beat in 08.



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