Reply #3: Thanks - - - it seems there is always more to learn about these guys who have

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been in 'charge' of the direction of the dem party for far too long.

Immediately after the 2004 election, my Dem party group had a guest speaker 'strategist' who blamed everything on Kerry. He was floored when I spoke up and said Kerry won all his matchups, but the DNC got their asses handed to them by the RNC who worked all 4years to put their people in places of power to make certain that their vote suppression and votestealing tactics would win the day in 2002 and 2004.

Kerry had to TAP INTO the party infrastructure when he became the nominee, but it was too collapsed in too many states to get the votes secured at the levels where the votes are cast and counted.

I think that the Carville types rushed to blame Kerry as the sole focus to coverup the incompetence (and probably purposeful incompetence) of the Clinton team at the DNC in 2000, 2002 and 2004. I think Dean proved that attention to the party infrastructure in all 50 states was the problem for Democrats, and so they had to reach into their scumbags to frame him for something that never happened - again, so they could control perception to favor THEIR team leading into 2008 election cycle. The difference is that we all know alot more about Mr. Matalin these days, and were in no mood to accept the lies.