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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:10 PM
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57. Defending the OP
.... two simple points that destroy any notion that 2004 was
a fairly counted election. Either the uncontaminated National
Exit Poll on election day is correct and Kerry won OR the vote
count and the day-after “adjusted” National Exit Poll is
correct (1:25 p.m. 11/03/04). We know that the voting
process was corrupted and that the count was as well, in all
probability (as evidenced by crazy results like an obscure
judge candidate for the Democrats out polling Kerry by large
margins in 28 Ohio counties).

We were never supposed to see the results from the Election
Day National Exit polls. It was released by mistake and
captured by true heroes of democracy. We were to see the
final NEP of 11/03/04. Why? Because it was ADJUSTED to
reflect the actual vote count.

That FINAL 11/03 adjusted NEP has two huge problems: 1) the
weight for Bush voters from 2000 was 108% of those who were
still alive and 2) the weight for Gore voters still living
was just 92% of those who voted for Gore in 2000. They had
to do a lot of “adjusting” between the final election day NEP
at 12:22 a.m. right after election day and the FINAL 11/03/04
official NEP released at 1:22 p.m. on the 3rd.

Is there a reason that day-after NEP was adjusted to match
the “actual” vote count? Who benefits?


The only reason for adjusting the exit-poll was to hide something. Indeed, why adjust the exit-polls at all? By the time the adjusted exit-polls were published, the official results were widely avaialable, making any further exit-poll numbers totally useless. But altered they were. Why? To hide something is the only logical answer. Hide what?

Well, after recieving $10 million for the work, the exit-pollers had to match the official numbers, otherwise their product would evidently be worthless. Well, they couldn't very well tell the payers of the $10 million "Yall wasted your money", now could they?

So, either they were hiding their incompetence, or they were hiding the true outcome. If someone feels the NEP was incompetent, we can understand. But if they were hiding the real outcome, we don't get it. In fact, they are still hiding the real raw numbers, so, one simply must conclude the reason for all the hiding is.....?

Now, OTOH, don't go into hiding, please, people would like to hear your expert opinions, I'm sure.

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