Reply #116: To a lesser degree (once again)...

[Don1]

NATO is to the UN as the Coalition Of The Willing is to NATO. Get it? If I show it to you and you cannot see it, then there is nothing more I can do.

And the bombing was done without cause. It made no sense unless the purpose was to destabilize the country. Same with introducing Al Qaeda. No sense unless the purpose was to destabilize. Again, not consistent with the value of life.

Now, it is a tight security state, much like what we seem to prefer in our past endeavors. The US controls everything about it. So again, that is not consistent with our value of liberty.

I am not saying that Clinton did not have an honest motive in intervention... As I said before, the methods of this war and the end results were not what was promised. Things could have been much better. And things could be a lot better right now.

Why does the US not give up corporate and governmental control of the country? Is the answer control? Then, okay. Say in your 10 core values that control is more important than liberty.