Reply #2: but we knew this. the significance to me

[seabeyond]

is the world knew this. at the u.n. meeting, powell and bush gave evidence of wmd from manipulated reports. the public would not go with all this stuff that bush wanted to go to war for. what he gets in trouble for is knowing this, and creating cia document to back it. was a matter of saying, you really are suggesting all this; but, if you are lying, your ass is in toruble. he was lying. his ass is in trouble

we all suspect and suggested bush was doing this during the summer and fall prior to war. we would say we think he is doing this, but we had no proof. or enough to convince media or the people. bush convinced a lot of americans, and yes, our senators and representitives to back him in this war. we knew he was going in. an ungodly number. seems the low 80's.

psychologically as a nation i think many of us had to say, k, we are going to support. we dont trust. none of it feels right. i dont think so........but fuck. who knows. and if bush is lying

cause i could remember having the feel cia was opposed and didnt see a threat. and of course powell. and when i saw those to turn over......

i really sat saying to the tv, surely they are not arrogant enough to lie on this shit. this is people dying, our people. powell wouldnt do that to his men