Reply #129: You're wrong-- we HAVE NOT stated that

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Look at the 2004 platform, and you will NOT see any mention of Universal health care. Even in 1988, when Dukakis was the nominee, we at least mentioned that universal healthcare was the stated goal. This time around, there's nary a word about it-- except for increased "access" to "health insurance".

Yes, we Democrats may "assume" that certain ideals are our goals, but we do not SAY they are-- not anymore, and certainly not to non-Democrats.

We cannot assume that the general public even KNOWS what we stand for anymore-- mostly because we don't know what we stand for ourselves, if the past four years are any indication.

You play by the Repubs rules, you lose every time.

When you refuse to take truly principled, opposing stands, you'll go down to defeat to the guy who stands FOR something.