Reply #125: I can't wait 70 years -- I'll be dead and my kids will be on SS

[moggie12]

Or maybe they won't because who knows what will happen to Social Security if we don't de-brainwash Bush voters.

That was actually a very compelling history lesson (this is off point, but I'd never heard about how the vote idea was originally raised, i.e., that a delegate raised it at a conference that had been convened to discuss a more narrow problem). The thing is, there's so many issues we could try to "radicalize" the debate on, which we would chose? Or which three, if just standing on one wasn't enough given how many there are?

And we need to win mid-term elections in two years. I can't think of how this could work. I really don't think we're in a position of strength at this juncture in the Party's history. Bush doesn't seem to care whether we shut up or not. He just keeps rolling right over us, not even bothering to "throw us any bones".

The one issue where the Dems could have made a dent was with Condi, though. I really think the Dems missed a golden opportunity. There was a compelling, persuasive case to be made that she failed to present a balanced, accurate view of events. If all the Dems had stood together on this (and jeffords) they could have really shaken-up public opinion. i think it would've been well worth the firestorm.