Reply #14: ewagner, it became evident to me during the elex...

[jswordy]

...process that, should Bush lose, then a faction of the Republican party was going to lose internally. The neocons, who are actually a comparatively small segment, would have been run over by the more moderate factions of that party. Obviously, that did not happen and the neocons gained major strength following the elex.

On the other hand, it was obvious to me that a Kerry loss would then set up a major challenge to the Clinton-led faction of our own party that as a commonality has the tendency to always -- as others put it -- move the party to the center. Or, as I put it, always wants to move the party to the gray areas where contrast is least and reasons for the electorate to vote AGAINST us are fewest.

But in that gray area, the reasons for folks to vote FOR us are also drowned out. And they have been thoroughly underwater now for some time.

So I totally agree with your wonderful insight. I am waiting to see which portion of our party loses, and which wins.