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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:10 PM
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"Too Nice For Our Own Good" or "We Are All Torturers Now"
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Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 03:12 PM by bloom
Heather Mac Donald, (Sr. Fellow, Manhattan Instit.) was on Cspan's Washington Journal this morning providing attractive deniability for the pro-torture apologists. Apparently she had written an article entitled, "Too Nice For Our Own Good" (or something - it doesn't google) which was printed in the Wall Street Journal this morning,

Yesterday Mark Danner (author of "Torture and Truth: America, Abu Ghraib and the War on Terror.") was on Democracy Now having written "We Are All Torturers Now" which was printed in the New York Times yesterday.


It was such an interesting contrast in presentation of the Gonzales issue. The Cspan presentation was like icing spread over garbage - so nobody could see what was underneath. While the Democracy Now program did it's best to discuss the implications of having a White House counsel write drafts that condone torture and then promote said person to the top Law enforcement position in the country. (With one consequence being the increased likelihood of our soldiers suffering from equally unethical treatment - another a breakdown in their own order and discipline).

The Cspan program with it's callers showed how divided we all are (as usual). With the usual deniers of reality who think the whole objection to Gonzales and torture shows how much in denial (or evil) the Democrats are. A few callers objected to torture and Gonzales - but MacDonald quickly snuffed them out - and added more icing and a few sprinkles of delusion.

MacDonald denied there should be any responsibility/accountability for the torture by higher-ups and attributed the filming of the torture to the porn culture we apparently live in. According to her - Al Qaedians do not deserve ethical treatment. She also said none of our rights have been taken away through the Patriot Act.

The Republicans go on creating their own reality and getting others to buy into it. (Meanwhile the "ownership class" is protected by the ones out there torturing on their behalf). The Wall Street Journal seems to take the position that the US cannot be bad enough. There is nothing we cannot do that we should be censored for. And anyone who thinks otherwise must listen to too much liberal propaganda.

"My view of this is rather simple. In his position in the White House, rather than helping the president do what he needed to do while following the law, he gave him advice that let him circumvent the law....It's corrupting all of us, I believe." - Mark Danner

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/06/153201

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/opinion/06danner.html?pagewanted=1&oref=login

http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Series&Code=WJE&ShowVidNum=6&Rot_Cat_CD=WJ&Rot_HT=206&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30
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