Reply #58: All I'm saying is that in 2000, everybody was shocked...

[IStriker]

that Florida was a voting disaster. Some of the most populated counties where big numbers of people voted had all kinds of "glitches and irregularities" (and I'm NOT including fraud of any kind in that category, just people errors, machine errors, etc.) The press in this country combed through Florida's ballots for months post-election. In the end, they agreed with the elected officials in the counties, a lot of whom were Democrats, that mistakes occur in every election and unless the vote is very close, the errors will not effect the outcome of the election. We are not going to have an error free election EVER because people are involved and they are not infallible. I had never considered this and I am certain most people had not until this razor-close election exposed it.

As to fraud: I am maintaining an open mind on this. Until somebody shows me proof, not allegations, I will remain neutral on how much occurred in Ohio. Fraud could change the outcome in a millions of vote election, not only in a close one.

As to paperless voting machines: I do not believe they should be used. I want a way to recount and to see who voted and how. I have heard that NO e-voting machines were used in Ohio. I do not know if this is true or not. I have seen posts on here claiming they were used, but again with no proof.