Reply #56: thank you... thank god for you.

[NuttyFluffers]

it really is a myopic view of freedom, isn't it? "freedom for me, because my actions only have consequences for me. it's all about me!"

let's be a bit more brutal about this, and make this grey area further muddled. what do you say to the parents of a baby who buckles the child to a safety seat due to 'lack of consent,' but choose not to buckle themselves. when they die their actions have ramifications for the unconsenting baby, their actions also affect other family members who will have to realign their world to this preventable disaster, etc. now, we can carry this to extremes, but saying it affects the baby and immediate family and any victims of a 150+ pound of flying flesh and witnesses and tying up of emergency services for a preventable issue is not a stretch by any means. it just follows the natural waves made by any action.

that's why i find american political libertarianism a childish version, it is far too self-absorbed and nearsighted. i have no respect for it.