Reply #6: Morals, as in declining morals IS A SMOKESCREEN

[nadinbrzezinski]

what we have is a failure of the Ethical standards in the country

There was a time that lying was not ok.

There was a time that cheating was not Ok

There was a time when our word was our bond (well except in some cases you mentioned, but those were not a moral problem, but an ETHICAL PROBLEM)

Ethics and Morals are Not the same thing, and PEOPLE HAVE to use the correct term

When did this failure start? Reagan, yes Reagan... that is where it started. Iran Contra, for many complex reasons, saw no significant conseequences for the participants, hence doing what they needed (or rather wanted)to do, and getting away wiht it became acceptable

The ethics of the comons has been replaced by the ethics of the individual where I get ahead by ANY MEANS necessary. Hence the failures of Enron and our government. There are no consequences... and this is an ETHICAL problem... time for people to put the morality down and call a spade a spade... the Pugs lack ethics... not morals, ethics... and tehy are regresive. You see they want to go back to the golden age of Dredd Scott... you think that freudian slip during the debate by bush was accidental?